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Emc2 10-25-2009 04:31 PM

SHOWA 15.6 Kokubunji Type 14 Pistol
 
hi All! I'm selling my Dad's gun collection for Mom; he got this (along with a 1937 Luger) from a cousin's husband, who got it from his mom's attic; what would you ask for this? a google search was low=$950, high=$1,400... it does have a groove from the safety, has the 'glove' trigger housing...
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...aneseLuger.jpg

CyberGold 10-25-2009 09:54 PM

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I would find a Jap rifle collector site and ask them. There are a few out there and you may get your best offer from them. If that don't work, then I would put it on Gunbroker with a substantial reserve (say... 1200 or so).- it appears to be in great shape so I would think it should go in the high end of the range.
Got a pic of the Luger?

Tallships 10-25-2009 09:58 PM

Re: SHOWA 15.6 Kokubunji Type 14 Pistol
 
Does it have the lotus marking?

Emc2 10-26-2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberGold (Post 1991004)
I would find a Jap rifle collector site and ask them. There are a few out there and you may get your best offer from them. If that don't work, then I would put it on Gunbroker with a substantial reserve (say... 1200 or so).- it appears to be in great shape so I would think it should go in the high end of the range.
Got a pic of the Luger?

here ya go. [serial # stamps all match except magazine (typical?), appears a few small parts are strawed (goldish rather than gunmetalish color) but wth do i know... gonna clean it up and see...
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...ermanLuger.jpg

Tomsawyer 10-26-2009 04:48 PM

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Be careful cleaning it up. Thats the number one way that people ruin the value of a collectible firearm.

If you dont know what you are doing, you might end up costing yourself a lot of money.

CyberGold 10-26-2009 04:49 PM

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STOP !!! Don't Touch That Luger !!!!! The original straw color is very delicate and like case hardening colors, very desirable. Don't try to clean it or you will wipe away $$$ as you do. (kinda like collector coins).

It too looks to be in excellent shape-wish I could afford to make you an offer.
Matching magazines are scarce but as long as you have an original Nazi with it your good. I bought an aftermarket for my 1913 just so I wouldn't damage or wear my original.

What kind of markings are on the top (toggle and barrel) It could be a script of DWM or S42 or some of the other manufacturers.
Nice fiind.

Tallships 10-26-2009 06:21 PM

Re: SHOWA 15.6 Kokubunji Type 14 Pistol
 
If it has the lotus marking, it will bring top dollar.

eat_beef 10-26-2009 06:43 PM

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Do you mean Chrysanthemum? Did the pistols have them, or only the Arisakas?

MISRy 10-26-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberGold (Post 1992186)
STOP !!! Don't Touch That Luger !!!!!

Please don't do anything that would turn out like a n00B thing! This is the one to want to have appraised. Did it come with a holster? What are the markings? Are there any swastikas left?

Tallships 10-26-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 1992372)
Do you mean Chrysanthemum? Did the pistols have them, or only the Arisakas?


It is the imperial seal. It was on everything owned by the Japanese govt. even their money. Their surrender was conditional that nothing bearing the seal would leave the country unless the seal was first removed. Many American soldiers snuck theirs home with the seal intact. These are very rare finds.

Tallships 10-26-2009 07:07 PM

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http://www.wwii-collectibles.com/top...aper-money.jpg

buff01 10-26-2009 07:21 PM

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The imperial seal is a chrysanthemum blossom, just like on a Japanese passport. No lotuses on any Japanese stuff that I've ever seen.

http://neoshinka.files.wordpress.com...-japan_400.jpg

Tallships 10-26-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by buff01 (Post 1992446)
The imperial seal is a chrysanthemum blossom, just like on a Japanese passport. No lotuses on any Japanese stuff that I've ever seen.


You are probably right, but me and my friends have always called them lotuses. I guess the Lotus is Chinese isnt it.


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